Glider Forums http://vforums.mmoglider.com/ MMOGlider Discussion Forum en Wed, 08 Sep 2010 03:30:56 GMT vBulletin 60 http://vforums.mmoglider.com/images/misc/rss.jpg Glider Forums http://vforums.mmoglider.com/ Setback for Jagex in DMCA lawsuit. http://vforums.mmoglider.com/showthread.php?t=213825&goto=newpost Tue, 07 Sep 2010 23:50:47 GMT http://www.gamerlaw.co.uk/2010/09/setback-for-jagex-in-runescape-lawsuit.html Interesting. http://www.gamerlaw.co.uk/2010/09/setback-for-jagex-in-runescape-lawsuit.html

Interesting. ]]> Legal Oxygenation http://vforums.mmoglider.com/showthread.php?t=213825 Greetings. http://vforums.mmoglider.com/showthread.php?t=213818&goto=newpost Mon, 06 Sep 2010 22:03:41 GMT I'm a long time WoW player and only recent botter. My interest in automated gaming began with MrFishit over on MMOwned, and seeking profiles for more advanced botting tools eventually led me here.

A pleasant how-do-you-do to those who read the introduction area. ]]> Introductions MrTime http://vforums.mmoglider.com/showthread.php?t=213818 Lineage II EULA looses in court http://vforums.mmoglider.com/showthread.php?t=213801&goto=newpost Wed, 01 Sep 2010 21:54:24 GMT This guy in Hawaii says he was addicted to Lineage II and when he got his accounts banned he sued NC for all kinds of damages. NC waltzed in,... This guy in Hawaii says he was addicted to Lineage II and when he got his accounts banned he sued NC for all kinds of damages.

NC waltzed in, pluncked down the EULA and pointed out that they can't be sued because the EULA says you can't sue them.. so there.

The Judge mentioned that in Texas (where NC is and you have to sue there) and in Hawaii, they have laws that say you can't prohibit someone for suing for gross negligence simply by having a clause in an EULA.. and the case moves forward with the potential of really shaking things up a bit.... or maybe not.
Lawyers should have fun with this and get richer and maybe, just maybe it'll help us start Gliding again.

Links
http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/blog/sroosa/software-license-agreement-takes-it-chin
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/31/lineage_ii_eula_defeat/ ]]> Legal Beer Drinker Jones http://vforums.mmoglider.com/showthread.php?t=213801 RuneScape bot developer wins big... sort of. http://vforums.mmoglider.com/showthread.php?t=213796&goto=newpost Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:46:37 GMT Remember awhile ago when I said JagEx (producers of RuneScape) were suing a bot developer? They didn't quite follow in Blizzard's footsteps, as they left out tortious interference - and they had a nifty trademark claim from the bot guys selling "runescape.su" email addresses to help phishers deceive people. They did, however, go right for the personal liability. As before, I believe that practice will stop when someone winds up dead, which tends to happen when you corner people.

Turns out they survived a preliminary injunction motion. It doesn't decide the whole case, but it's pretty damn close to a win for the bot guy. They will definitely be able to keep selling their product, if they choose to.

Unfrozen caveman lawyer analysis:

1) JagEx got smoked on the copyright claim because they didn't register the game in the Copyright Office. Comedy gold. The court conveniently sidesteps the whole "someone made a RAM copy somewhere while violating a term in the EULA!" thing by saying there's no copyright to infringe. One key point is JagEx mentioned that they did register the copyrights to some of the game art, which does get copied around in RAM, even if the game code itself isn't registered. The judge didn't seem to latch onto that quite the same way our guy did.

2) JagEx lost on their DMCA claim because there was nothing to circumvent. The court pretty much said "if you had something like Warden, maybe there's a DMCA violation". But RuneScape doesn't really have a Warden, or at least it wasn't presented very well to the court if it does. There's no real legal analysis of what access-control or copy-protection is, so it doesn't really mean much other than 1) RuneScape needs some kind of Warden or 2) JagEx needs better counsel to explain how their Warden-like thing works. Mind you, I'd still think the bot guy should win in the face of such Warden, but it's a moot point without.

3) JagEx somehow lost on the "runescape.su" trademark infringement claim, since the defendant isn't doing it any more. I'm no trademark master, but it sure seems like a shitload of damage was done before with that domain name. Maybe there's a different claim they have to assert.

TL;DR
Bot guy won, kind of on some technicalities.

Download link
http://mmoglider.com/legal/JagexVsImpulse/PI_Order.pdf ]]> Announcements Mercury http://vforums.mmoglider.com/showthread.php?t=213796 Hello http://vforums.mmoglider.com/showthread.php?t=213758&goto=newpost Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:11:57 GMT I'm using Pocket Gnome just searching for some profiles to convert :) ]]> Introductions bisti http://vforums.mmoglider.com/showthread.php?t=213758 Hey everyone! http://vforums.mmoglider.com/showthread.php?t=213749&goto=newpost Tue, 24 Aug 2010 07:11:48 GMT Hey my name is Brice I live in Wisconsin.
I currently play WOW, RS(botting only) and MS!

I've been dying to find a good WOW bot. Ive looked over at honorbuddy but I've tried it before and its just not as good as i hoped. I wasn't into wow when glider got sued but when I found gilder I was amazed! I wish I could have gotten a chance to try it out before it got shut down. Well I cant change that but as of now I'm looking for a new bot that I can rely on.

I've looked at all the bots I could find. After finding out that most were fake and just gave me viruses. So I returned to gilders forums and looked at all the bots that were posted and I found one I may like but I really don't know much about because most people don't have it. The bot in question is bo0gieman's bot.

I have a few questions about bo0gieman's bot.
  1. What does it look like?
  2. Where and how can i get it?
  3. Is it as good as they say it is?
  4. Can you leave it running for days?
  5. What are the system requirements for bo0gieman's bot?
  6. Why is this bot so private?
  7. Is it ever gonna be public?
  8. Does it cost anything?
]]> Introductions bbgun_2006 http://vforums.mmoglider.com/showthread.php?t=213749 Blizzard wins $88 million http://vforums.mmoglider.com/showthread.php?t=213687&goto=newpost Sun, 15 Aug 2010 08:20:47 GMT http://games.slashdot.org/story/10/08/15/046250/Blizzard-Sues-Private-Server-Company-Awarded-88M Ouch http://games.slashdot.org/story/10/08/15/046250/Blizzard-Sues-Private-Server-Company-Awarded-88M


Ouch ]]> Legal hater http://vforums.mmoglider.com/showthread.php?t=213687 Move it to Iceland! http://vforums.mmoglider.com/showthread.php?t=213680&goto=newpost Fri, 13 Aug 2010 20:17:24 GMT Iceland just updated their constitution to protect people who use an ISP host in their country more than pretty much any other country in the world. ... Iceland just updated their constitution to protect people who use an ISP host in their country more than pretty much any other country in the world. Sweden is good too, that's where the wikilinks guy is hosted.

Get back in the game!

"Iceland's parliament, the Altingi, voted Tuesday to make Iceland a leader in freedom of expression by increasing information freedom and to providing stronger protections for media sources and whistleblowers. The initiative creates a secure environment for revealing sensitive information."
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/08/06/wikileaks-website-protected-swedish-law/ ]]> Legal Gjo http://vforums.mmoglider.com/showthread.php?t=213680 hi everybody http://vforums.mmoglider.com/showthread.php?t=213678&goto=newpost Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:44:58 GMT im drgreen i used to use glider back in 07 but quit wow. now im back to the world and wondering if glider still works now days for wrath. ... im drgreen

i used to use glider back in 07 but quit wow. now im back to the world and wondering if glider still works now days for wrath. hoping i will to run it on 64bit vista too. also how hard is it for bliz to detect the glider if your watching it constaly

so pleese respond on how the gilder is working how days and if its worth it to get a new key ]]> Introductions drgreen http://vforums.mmoglider.com/showthread.php?t=213678 lo http://vforums.mmoglider.com/showthread.php?t=213665&goto=newpost Thu, 12 Aug 2010 16:04:42 GMT Hello all I am a short term WoW player and long time hacker. I run proxies for an iphone service called project p1nksn0w and I am considering getting... Hello all I am a short term WoW player and long time hacker. I run proxies for an iphone service called project p1nksn0w and I am considering getting into botting WoW for fun or profit. Perhaps WoW players would like to change their location to run more bots?

Just wanted to say hi and I will be reading around before asking any newbish questions. ]]> Introductions ayestyles http://vforums.mmoglider.com/showthread.php?t=213665